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toru: April 26, 2008 - 10:12 AM PST http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89882885

check out this link. its w/ a lecturer from Princeton. He describes the trends in treatment and different types of therapies in a personal way, not academic. Very interesting.
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starrgazerr: April 16, 2008 - 12:24 PM PST
IrisFromOhio Said:
As the mother of a daughter who is both developmentally handicapped AND suffers from OCD, I find this thread fascinating. I had been married to her father, who is mentally ill, & have a sister who has a severe mental illness as well. I know the Mental Health system in America all too well. When it comes to the worried well, it is much easier to get help, but really severe problems takes extremely great effort.

Starrgazer, I feel your pain & that of your parents. Never apologize nor feel that you have to explain your treatment of your problems with medication. I am sure life still isn't perfect, but the fact that you recognize the relief offered through medicine shows your intellingent approach to parenting yourself. I am proud of you!


wow. i don't think anyone has ever given me that much hope and appreciation before concerning what i go through. i wish you the best in everything with your family as well. know that you have touched my life, and like i said, i hope your family flourishes.
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grasshopper: April 15, 2008 - 05:53 PM PST And I also have to say that I am SO proud of this community for gathering around a fellow QLifer in need. very cool.
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grasshopper: April 15, 2008 - 05:50 PM PST
rawethe Said:
grasshopper Said:
starrgazerr Said:
I find this thread extremely interesting because it hit very, very close to home. A few years ago, I went to my doctor to talk to him about the way I was feeling. I was overly worried about EVERYTHING in my life... from money to work to school to friends to everything! I can't accurately describe it, but yes, it was debilitating. I couldn't, and didn't want to, do ANYTHING. On top of that, I have OCD where I have to do certain things 6 times, and little things get me extremely aggitated. I had to make lists and lists and lists. I would make lists about lists that I had to make! If any of this didn't happen, I would get in a panic so badly I would physically make myself sick.

Point being, I was referred by my doctor to a psychiatrist. I talked with her, and she put me on generic Prozac, and gave me anti-anxiety pills as well. I have tried to wean myself off many times, but when I do, I can tell that I'm not okay. I don't want to be on pills, I really, truly don't. But if I'm not, I can't have a normal life without worrying about EVERY minute detail in my life...

What do you think about that?


I think there is an emotional factor here that needs to be considered as well. These problems come from somewhere otherwise we would be born with them. Most mental disorders manifest in late teen years and early 20's. I think with physiological effects that medication can at times assist in bringing a person to a place where they are calm enough, a person's psyche and history need also be given some attention. Many of us need help sorting out our thoughts and angst about life and finding those things that cause us anxiety so we can face our fears and see lasting change. Medications are really only a temporary fix.


I don't know that I'd agree most MHI's manifest in the late teen years or early 20's. I'm a child therapist and I am often seeing the beginnings of much deeper disorders beginning now. I would say most are probably diagnosed in those age ranges. Possibly, as there are higher numbers of mid-life and elderly diagnosis also.

Also, my two cents? A DISORDER is something that creates havoc in daily life. EVERY day you cannot live a functional life due to your symptoms. A Disorder is not your average depression from breaking up with a guy. However 5 years of depression in which one's appetite, sleep, social life, etc. are effected after losing a loved one is. The DSM-IV is there for a reason. It's a pretty great guideline, even if it does have it's grey areas. Plus a new one should be out soon with more updates.


Disorders are diagnosed at earlier and earlier ages in patients. That is true. As well, symptoms in children are manifesting earlier. I agree. Both the science and its patients are maturing at a quicker pace.

I don't recall arguing the basis or definition of a disorder. If I did I apologize. Let the record show that I am not a board certified professional. HOWEVER, having said that, my comments earlier were a matter of opinion based upon starr's statements that she did not want to be on medication forever. I agree with her. I would not want to be either. Again IMHO, there are other factors to be considered when a person is diagnosed with a "DISORDER" as you put it. I'm simply saying there must be an origin for said DISORDER. While science may not have yet discovered concrete evidence of physiological/psychological origins it might behoove a person for their emotional well being and sense of peace to discover the origin or at least with the help of a professional seek answers. And although a person may be diagnosed by a disorder, a person may live a healthy life aside from the DO, as well as separate the DO from their perception of who they are as a person while still seeking treatment responsibly, IMHO.
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raygunray: April 15, 2008 - 09:25 AM PST
TellTheTruth Said:


Why call having anxiety a "mental disorder?" Since everyone experiences it, by definition, it's "normal," not abnormal. People need to learn how to deal with anxieties when they experience them by confronting the situation, not by running to a psychiatrist to get labeled a mental case and given prescriptions. That is not a solution, it causes even greater problems.

See the video clip about these invented "diseases."


Just so everyone knows, this link by the Church of Scientology. Also its SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...SPAM...
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raygunray: April 15, 2008 - 09:18 AM PST My last podcast featured a tape randomly distributed by a preacher who had some very obvious signs of mental illness. He claimed that he had psychic powers and could communicate with Hollywood celebrities, and that Mick Jagger and Hollywood were persecuting him.

I said that he may have schizophrenia but I'm not an authority of the subject. You may listen here: http://www.quarterlife.com/raygunray/audio/dic-13---guest-poet--qler-josh-romig
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IrisFromOhio: April 15, 2008 - 08:59 AM PST As the mother of a daughter who is both developmentally handicapped AND suffers from OCD, I find this thread fascinating. I had been married to her father, who is mentally ill, & have a sister who has a severe mental illness as well. I know the Mental Health system in America all too well. When it comes to the worried well, it is much easier to get help, but really severe problems takes extremely great effort.

Starrgazer, I feel your pain & that of your parents. Never apologize nor feel that you have to explain your treatment of your problems with medication. I am sure life still isn't perfect, but the fact that you recognize the relief offered through medicine shows your intellingent approach to parenting yourself. I am proud of you!
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sixysummat: April 15, 2008 - 08:48 AM PST
toru Said:
sixy, I appreciate your comments and explainations. I'm just confused, please bear with me, as I possibly try your patience! So, in your research and investigation, did you hear and read mental health professionals delinate the terms 'illness' and disorder in the way you described? I guess, I'm just refering to textbooks and the DSMV, so my experience with this stuff isn't personal/professional. I'm interested to know if I missed something in my studies, or if this was an explanation that I didn't make it in the texts. I tried to go through my texts, and also through past lectures. But- I will look more into to it. If you can cite something, that would be helpful, I would like to be corrected on this!


I must be looking at this from a legal point of view & with empathy for our past client. So sorry
All I know is that a mental disease can impair good judgment. Usually, people with a disorder of some form aren't necessarily impaired when it comes to legal issues & social conduct. Mercy me! I can get on my high horse, can't I?
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starrgazerr: April 15, 2008 - 05:23 AM PST
rawethe Said:
grasshopper Said:
starrgazerr Said:
I find this thread extremely interesting because it hit very, very close to home. A few years ago, I went to my doctor to talk to him about the way I was feeling. I was overly worried about EVERYTHING in my life... from money to work to school to friends to everything! I can't accurately describe it, but yes, it was debilitating. I couldn't, and didn't want to, do ANYTHING. On top of that, I have OCD where I have to do certain things 6 times, and little things get me extremely aggitated. I had to make lists and lists and lists. I would make lists about lists that I had to make! If any of this didn't happen, I would get in a panic so badly I would physically make myself sick.

Point being, I was referred by my doctor to a psychiatrist. I talked with her, and she put me on generic Prozac, and gave me anti-anxiety pills as well. I have tried to wean myself off many times, but when I do, I can tell that I'm not okay. I don't want to be on pills, I really, truly don't. But if I'm not, I can't have a normal life without worrying about EVERY minute detail in my life...

What do you think about that?


I think there is an emotional factor here that needs to be considered as well. These problems come from somewhere otherwise we would be born with them. Most mental disorders manifest in late teen years and early 20's. I think with physiological effects that medication can at times assist in bringing a person to a place where they are calm enough, a person's psyche and history need also be given some attention. Many of us need help sorting out our thoughts and angst about life and finding those things that cause us anxiety so we can face our fears and see lasting change. Medications are really only a temporary fix.


I don't know that I'd agree most MHI's manifest in the late teen years or early 20's. I'm a child therapist and I am often seeing the beginnings of much deeper disorders beginning now. I would say most are probably diagnosed in those age ranges. Possibly, as there are higher numbers of mid-life and elderly diagnosis also.

Also, my two cents? A DISORDER is something that creates havoc in daily life. EVERY day you cannot live a functional life due to your symptoms. A Disorder is not your average depression from breaking up with a guy. However 5 years of depression in which one's appetite, sleep, social life, etc. are effected after losing a loved one is. The DSM-IV is there for a reason. It's a pretty great guideline, even if it does have it's grey areas. Plus a new one should be out soon with more updates.


my OCD started when i was a child. i was extremely young; maybe 5 or 6. that was when i had to start touching all of the caps of things in the fridge. i also had a problem with socks. i couldn't have socks that had lining that went over the toes, they always had to be across the tops of the toes. it wasn't just that it bothered me, i would literally have a panic attack to the point where i would hyperventalate(sp?) and start hysterically crying until my mom either cut the toes off of my socks or took them off of me.
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starrgazerr: April 15, 2008 - 05:21 AM PST
toru Said:
starrgazerr Said:
I find this thread extremely interesting because it hit very, very close to home. A few years ago, I went to my doctor to talk to him about the way I was feeling. I was overly worried about EVERYTHING in my life... from money to work to school to friends to everything! I can't accurately describe it, but yes, it was debilitating. I couldn't, and didn't want to, do ANYTHING. On top of that, I have OCD where I have to do certain things 6 times, and little things get me extremely aggitated. I had to make lists and lists and lists. I would make lists about lists that I had to make! If any of this didn't happen, I would get in a panic so badly I would physically make myself sick.

Point being, I was referred by my doctor to a psychiatrist. I talked with her, and she put me on generic Prozac, and gave me anti-anxiety pills as well. I have tried to wean myself off many times, but when I do, I can tell that I'm not okay. I don't want to be on pills, I really, truly don't. But if I'm not, I can't have a normal life without worrying about EVERY minute detail in my life...

What do you think about that?


I'm happy that you found something to that works for you. I hope you continue feeling as well as you do now.

As for why you feel the way you do, I really can't make any assumptions. I'm not a doctor, and its not my business. I can offer explanations, but really I can't do much more than that. It could be that you personally process emotions in a different way. It could be that you have had many stressful life events in addition to a genetic propensity to developing anxity disorders. I don't know. Only your unique individual history can provide these answers, but I am happy for you that you were able to get the treatment you need.


thank you
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toru: April 14, 2008 - 06:35 PM PST I think the whole medication thing is very complex and can't be thrown on the feet of doctors. Physicans work within a health care system where many people can't afford to go to a therapist. They can't afford to seek the care they need and when they watch tv and see a commerical about prozac they immediately ask their doctor about it. Their doctor because he/she is usually overwhelmed with other appointments doesn't have the time or the training to figure out what's really going on, does this patient have an illness, do they need cognitive therapy, will meds help them? What they know is that people are in pain and are describing depression/anxious like symptoms to them. The doctor then prescribes meds. This isn't entirely the fault to of the doctor. Should doctors be more reluctant to give out meds? Yes, but they also want their patients to feel better and they know that in the short term this drug might work. Also in this system are pharm reps, who give doctors incentives for prescribing more meds from their company. Then there's the issue of an over educated hyprochondrac patient who is very convincing. Then theres the fact that insurance often won't cover psychotherapy.
This is a complex issue- its not just docs who are pushing pills. there is an interaction between, need, easy perscriptions, and lack of knowledge
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toru: April 14, 2008 - 04:38 PM PST sixy, I appreciate your comments and explainations. I'm just confused, please bear with me, as I possibly try your patience! So, in your research and investigation, did you hear and read mental health professionals delinate the terms 'illness' and disorder in the way you described? I guess, I'm just refering to textbooks and the DSMV, so my experience with this stuff isn't personal/professional. I'm interested to know if I missed something in my studies, or if this was an explanation that I didn't make it in the texts. I tried to go through my texts, and also through past lectures. But- I will look more into to it. If you can cite something, that would be helpful, I would like to be corrected on this!
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rawethe: April 14, 2008 - 02:42 PM PST Oh yeah, and I think the guilt for the over-medicated goes to the general physicians. Far too often a general MD will be too busy to take the time to make the referral to a psychiatrist, or he/she likes to think they are competent to diagnose and medicate a psychiatric concern. Psychiatrists specialize in meds and diseases from mental Health arenas. You wouldn't go to an ear, nose, and throat specialist for heart disease would you? I have WAY to many kiddos see me who are on the wrong meds from their Pediatrician.
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rawethe: April 14, 2008 - 02:39 PM PST
grasshopper Said:
starrgazerr Said:
I find this thread extremely interesting because it hit very, very close to home. A few years ago, I went to my doctor to talk to him about the way I was feeling. I was overly worried about EVERYTHING in my life... from money to work to school to friends to everything! I can't accurately describe it, but yes, it was debilitating. I couldn't, and didn't want to, do ANYTHING. On top of that, I have OCD where I have to do certain things 6 times, and little things get me extremely aggitated. I had to make lists and lists and lists. I would make lists about lists that I had to make! If any of this didn't happen, I would get in a panic so badly I would physically make myself sick.

Point being, I was referred by my doctor to a psychiatrist. I talked with her, and she put me on generic Prozac, and gave me anti-anxiety pills as well. I have tried to wean myself off many times, but when I do, I can tell that I'm not okay. I don't want to be on pills, I really, truly don't. But if I'm not, I can't have a normal life without worrying about EVERY minute detail in my life...

What do you think about that?


I think there is an emotional factor here that needs to be considered as well. These problems come from somewhere otherwise we would be born with them. Most mental disorders manifest in late teen years and early 20's. I think with physiological effects that medication can at times assist in bringing a person to a place where they are calm enough, a person's psyche and history need also be given some attention. Many of us need help sorting out our thoughts and angst about life and finding those things that cause us anxiety so we can face our fears and see lasting change. Medications are really only a temporary fix.


I don't know that I'd agree most MHI's manifest in the late teen years or early 20's. I'm a child therapist and I am often seeing the beginnings of much deeper disorders beginning now. I would say most are probably diagnosed in those age ranges. Possibly, as there are higher numbers of mid-life and elderly diagnosis also.

Also, my two cents? A DISORDER is something that creates havoc in daily life. EVERY day you cannot live a functional life due to your symptoms. A Disorder is not your average depression from breaking up with a guy. However 5 years of depression in which one's appetite, sleep, social life, etc. are effected after losing a loved one is. The DSM-IV is there for a reason. It's a pretty great guideline, even if it does have it's grey areas. Plus a new one should be out soon with more updates.
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sixysummat: April 14, 2008 - 10:32 AM PST
toru Said:
Sixty, although I think its helpful to make clear distinctions like separating very distinct illnesses like schizenphrenia from MDD,when you are trying conceptualizing mental illness, this is not the way psychologists/psychiaratrists conceptualize mental disorders. In all the literature I have read, I've never heard an author say- here is a mental disease, here is a mental illness, here is a disorder. The DSM-IV does not make this distinction either.

But, like I said its helpful to think about in that way, for example looking at something like schizophrenia, helps us understand the dynamics of the entire picture. I'd also note that the rates of schizophrenia are significally higher in working class families as well. To develop schiz you need to have a genetic componenet, but the insteresting factor here is twin studies, which suggest that the immediate environment plays are more dominant role in developing schz than the genetic component. Twin studies show that a person's environment a person has grown up in contributes up to 40% of a person's eitmology.

Also, there is a diagnosis problem as well as an over med probelm. But I don't necessarily think fixing this issue would be as simple as suggesting that doctors are going med crazy. I would suggest that there is a demand for this from market influences and this demand needs to be understood. As well as the nature of the circumstances of peoples lives that are putting them in a position to ask for these drugs and therapies.


I beg to differ that the mental health community doesn't look at it this way. First of all, mental illness is treated by a psychiatrist, a medical physician. Psychologists & psychiatric nurses, sociologists & clinical therapists can treat mental disorders, like depression. When there is a physical component, it is an illness. That can include depression and anxiety problems, but not always. I haven't simply read books & articles, but had to do research for a client, whom I got to know as well. He was a schizophrenic who was being legally pursued, because he would make racial comments. To be a racist is disordered thinking, because it doesn't promote commonality, but this mentally ill man had a disordered thought process due to his mental illness & wasn't responsible for his socially deviant behavior. In order to prescribe medication, it is supposed to be diagnosed by someone with the authority to make the medical determination that it is necessary. I may see that you have a cold or flue, but I cannot write you a prescription for an antibiotic or anything else, since I have no clue whether it's an allergic reaction to something. But a cold is an illness, allergies are not necessarily. Also, the jury is still out whether or not schizophrenia or anything in the psychotic spectrum of illnesses have a genetic component. The suspicion is there, but there is no proof. There is the possibility of an infection in the brain. Complicated organ & complicated issue.

Oh, I never said that the problem IS abuse in over prescribing anti psychotic medications. I said that treatment for depression is over diagnosed & there is room for abuse in that area. This is something about which no one in the medical profession would disagree. The evidence is in the abuse of prescription medication by so many young people, for whom their brains may not be developed enough to respond appropriately. Not the only problem, but one of many. That is what I am saying.
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toru: April 14, 2008 - 07:47 AM PST
starrgazerr Said:
I find this thread extremely interesting because it hit very, very close to home. A few years ago, I went to my doctor to talk to him about the way I was feeling. I was overly worried about EVERYTHING in my life... from money to work to school to friends to everything! I can't accurately describe it, but yes, it was debilitating. I couldn't, and didn't want to, do ANYTHING. On top of that, I have OCD where I have to do certain things 6 times, and little things get me extremely aggitated. I had to make lists and lists and lists. I would make lists about lists that I had to make! If any of this didn't happen, I would get in a panic so badly I would physically make myself sick.

Point being, I was referred by my doctor to a psychiatrist. I talked with her, and she put me on generic Prozac, and gave me anti-anxiety pills as well. I have tried to wean myself off many times, but when I do, I can tell that I'm not okay. I don't want to be on pills, I really, truly don't. But if I'm not, I can't have a normal life without worrying about EVERY minute detail in my life...

What do you think about that?


I'm happy that you found something to that works for you. I hope you continue feeling as well as you do now.

As for why you feel the way you do, I really can't make any assumptions. I'm not a doctor, and its not my business. I can offer explanations, but really I can't do much more than that. It could be that you personally process emotions in a different way. It could be that you have had many stressful life events in addition to a genetic propensity to developing anxity disorders. I don't know. Only your unique individual history can provide these answers, but I am happy for you that you were able to get the treatment you need.
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grasshopper: April 14, 2008 - 06:04 AM PST
starrgazerr Said:
I find this thread extremely interesting because it hit very, very close to home. A few years ago, I went to my doctor to talk to him about the way I was feeling. I was overly worried about EVERYTHING in my life... from money to work to school to friends to everything! I can't accurately describe it, but yes, it was debilitating. I couldn't, and didn't want to, do ANYTHING. On top of that, I have OCD where I have to do certain things 6 times, and little things get me extremely aggitated. I had to make lists and lists and lists. I would make lists about lists that I had to make! If any of this didn't happen, I would get in a panic so badly I would physically make myself sick.

Point being, I was referred by my doctor to a psychiatrist. I talked with her, and she put me on generic Prozac, and gave me anti-anxiety pills as well. I have tried to wean myself off many times, but when I do, I can tell that I'm not okay. I don't want to be on pills, I really, truly don't. But if I'm not, I can't have a normal life without worrying about EVERY minute detail in my life...

What do you think about that?


I think there is an emotional factor here that needs to be considered as well. These problems come from somewhere otherwise we would be born with them. Most mental disorders manifest in late teen years and early 20's. I think with physiological effects that medication can at times assist in bringing a person to a place where they are calm enough, a person's psyche and history need also be given some attention. Many of us need help sorting out our thoughts and angst about life and finding those things that cause us anxiety so we can face our fears and see lasting change. Medications are really only a temporary fix.
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starrgazerr: April 14, 2008 - 05:13 AM PST I find this thread extremely interesting because it hit very, very close to home. A few years ago, I went to my doctor to talk to him about the way I was feeling. I was overly worried about EVERYTHING in my life... from money to work to school to friends to everything! I can't accurately describe it, but yes, it was debilitating. I couldn't, and didn't want to, do ANYTHING. On top of that, I have OCD where I have to do certain things 6 times, and little things get me extremely aggitated. I had to make lists and lists and lists. I would make lists about lists that I had to make! If any of this didn't happen, I would get in a panic so badly I would physically make myself sick.

Point being, I was referred by my doctor to a psychiatrist. I talked with her, and she put me on generic Prozac, and gave me anti-anxiety pills as well. I have tried to wean myself off many times, but when I do, I can tell that I'm not okay. I don't want to be on pills, I really, truly don't. But if I'm not, I can't have a normal life without worrying about EVERY minute detail in my life...

What do you think about that?
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toru: April 13, 2008 - 05:16 PM PST Sixty, although I think its helpful to make clear distinctions like separating very distinct illnesses like schizenphrenia from MDD,when you are trying conceptualizing mental illness, this is not the way psychologists/psychiaratrists conceptualize mental disorders. In all the literature I have read, I've never heard an author say- here is a mental disease, here is a mental illness, here is a disorder. The DSM-IV does not make this distinction either.

But, like I said its helpful to think about in that way, for example looking at something like schizophrenia, helps us understand the dynamics of the entire picture. I'd also note that the rates of schizophrenia are significally higher in working class families as well. To develop schiz you need to have a genetic componenet, but the insteresting factor here is twin studies, which suggest that the immediate environment plays are more dominant role in developing schz than the genetic component. Twin studies show that a person's environment a person has grown up in contributes up to 40% of a person's eitmology.

Also, there is a diagnosis problem as well as an over med probelm. But I don't necessarily think fixing this issue would be as simple as suggesting that doctors are going med crazy. I would suggest that there is a demand for this from market influences and this demand needs to be understood. As well as the nature of the circumstances of peoples lives that are putting them in a position to ask for these drugs and therapies.
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sixysummat: April 13, 2008 - 04:52 PM PST I won't bore anyone with one of my verbose rants (you're welcome ), but again, I had to do research on the subject of mental health for a case one of our attorneys had on my job. People who haven't had a close relationship to someone in some fashion with a real, serious mental illness sometimes cannot grasp the depth of the issue. Moreover, there is a difference between a mental disorder & a mental disease. Mental disorders can very often be treated with standard cognitive or talk therapy, but a disease, such as schizophrenia, cannot. A disorder is simply something that isn't "normal" or "standard" but mentally ILL people actually have a sickness, like diabetes, cancer, multiple sclerosis, but the diseased organ is the brain, making it delicate & difficult to treat. While most brain diseases are highly treatable, they are also highly specific & it can take years before the proper balance is found. These people are also among the most vulnerable in our society, sometimes for the very misconceptions so many others seem to have.

Danielle is also very on point when she mentions the number of people prescribed anti-depressants for not very good reasons. That is another scary situation that needs to be addressed by society, but separate from the mental illness issue. That is definitely an issue of professional abuse, if you ask me.... but then again, you didn't.
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toru: April 13, 2008 - 04:38 PM PST I've tried to read this article, but the link is dead. Anyway, one of the telling statements that the current cultural environmet is damaging, is that up to 30% of working class people experience states of anxiety and depression. I think it is telling of the condition of our culture if 1/3 of a specific class of people experience mental disorder more than the rest of the population. There are arguments that people who are genetically succeptable to mental disorders are just more likely to be poor, but I think that's classicist. At some point you have to admit that the system is driving people mad.

You can only pile so much on people before they break down. This is the method the military uses for officer training, they metally and phsyically create a 'mental breakdown' so that they can rebuild you in the way they want. But people who are facing so much stress in their lives today and are suffering emotionally and physically as a result are not being built up. Their spirits are being left to die, these are people who are not only economically the most vulnerable, but are people that feel bad many days out of the year because of the position they are in, and few are giving these people the relief. I don't think the situation is entirely political. Politics may be able to ease the financial burden and that will help, but a higher living standard alone can not help a person grow and develop past the pain that they have been living in for years.

I think we've reached a breaking point.

I haven't looked at the stats for minority groups but I would be interested to know how many AA have higher rates. Racism runs deep, and the institutional racism manifested to this day must be leaving an impact.
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anunlikelybelle: March 27, 2008 - 09:35 PM PST I suffer from Bipolar disorder and I have a mild case of OCD. I am on medication for my BP but it was a long hard road to find the one that works.
I don't know if i is the pharmacutical companies trying to make money or not. But without my Medication I am a wreck.
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mixie: March 27, 2008 - 09:12 PM PST Hunter Thompson realy said it best when he said, "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me." I think the problems don't really lie in the over prescription of pharmaceuticals. It's just a function of getting to know yourself. Alot of people either don't bother with it at all, or, they like to classify themselves as something straight out of the DSM IV, and it's good to know yourself in a sense, but why bother with the classifications unless it's serious enough to really hinder your lifestye. I never minded when I heard people joke about their ocd tendencies, but when you can't eat unless you've chewed something 28 times, or you can't get out of the car because you made an odd number of left hand turns on your travels, it's not so hilarious. It's something a person rarely derives any pleasure from, and in most cases, is extremely ashamed of. But not everyone's first step is to get in line for some Prozac. You have to find out what works for you. And unfortunately, that's a complicated proposal in the hands of a very lazy culture.